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Why allocate to hybrid capital instead of traditional high yield?

By Peter Doherty, Head of Fixed Income at Sanlam Investments UK

Q1. What is hybrid capital?

Hybrid capital is a generic term covering all subordinated securities that sit in the middle of a company’s balance sheet: lower ranked than senior debt but senior to equity.

Sample simplified capital structure











Source: Sanlam Investments, April 2021.

Q2. What are the main differences between hybrid capital and high yield?

The vast majority of hybrid capital is issued by large, household name companies with an investment grade senior credit rating such as Legal & General, Lloyds Bank and British Telecom.

In contrast, traditional high yield (HY) is by definition an issue of debt by a sub-investment grade company such as Virgin Media or Pizza Express.

Q3: What sort of companies issue hybrid capital?

There’s a wide range of household names issuing hybrid securities – Legal & General and EDF are two. Lloyds Bank and Allianz are two more. These are very large, well-known and well-respected companies with good balance sheets. They aren’t fly-by-night entities. Ask yourself, what is likely to be more risky: a bond issued by a new, heavily leveraged company engaged in say US shale oil production, or a hybrid issued by a long-established entity like L&G or EDF which has a stable, established business with large and recurring cash flows? Those are the kinds of issues that we think investors should really think about.

There’s also a reputational angle here: it doesn’t look good if investment grade companies fail to meet their debt obligations, even if the specific security they’ve reneged on happens to be rated below investment grade. By contrast, if the parent company is high yield (i.e. the parent itself is ‘junk’), there’s a very clearly implied risk that it might not make good on any of its debt in the longer term.

Traditional high yield debt is issued by a very wide range of companies; the unifying theme is that the companies themselves are ‘junk’, that is they tend to be highly leveraged and thus are not considered ‘investment grade’ as defined by independent credit ratings agencies such as S&P, Moody’s or Fitch.

Q4: What have historic defaults been in hybrid capital and high yield?

It is important to look at independent, third-party data here. If, for example, we look at data from Credit Sights, which covers the last twenty years (a period that of course includes the Global Financial Crisis – GFC) it is clear that ‘traditional’ high yield usually exhibits a higher default rate than high yield financials. (To be clear, in our fund we don’t invest in financials where the parent is high yield.)

As can be seen in the line chart below, with the exception of the GFC, default rates for high yield financials tend to be lower than they are for ‘mainstream’ high yield, and there have been long periods when HY bank defaults have been zero, which isn’t the case for high yield.

Issuer weighted LTM Default rates













Source: Credit Sights, 31 March 2021.
*Default data from 31 January 2000 to 31 December 2020.
*‘US HY Master’ and Euro HY Master depict mainstream US and European high yield default rates respectively.

For investment grade financials, defaults are so rare that Credit Sights do not maintain a time series of default rates – indeed the only US dollar investment grade default in financials in recent decades is that of Lehman Brothers in the GFC.

Q5. Why do you advocate hybrid capital over traditional high yield?

There are a few things to think about here. First, high yield debt has performed very well in recent years – so much so that the widely-used ICE Bank of America US High Yield Index now has a yield of around 4%.[1] In our opinion, it would be better to think of ‘high yield’ as a ‘medium yield’ asset class from here.

Moreover, 2021-2023 expected high yield default rates of 3-4%[2] per annum (as assessed by Fitch Ratings and S&P) will reduce the total return from this already low number. So, for high yield you’ve got a toxic mix of very low absolute levels of yield, tight spreads (i.e. rich valuations), the likelihood of an increase in defaults and rising risk-free rates in government debt markets – everything is pointing the wrong way.

In short, taking the starting point of today’s high yield market and adjusting for expected defaults, there is, realistically, only scope for very low single-digit returns, in our opinion.

We’ve explained the impact of defaults on net returns in the table below. This is a critically important consideration given that gross yields for most asset classes remain extremely low but defaults for high yield as a specific asset class are likely to rise.

impact of defaults on net returns





Source: Sanlam Investments, April 2021.

Q6: What about the outlook for hybrid capital? Are the risks not the same? What about the expected return from here?

According to an anonymous data source, the sterling AT1 market – a proxy for hybrid capital – offers a yield to worst of 5.6% and a yield to call of 4.1%. Even in euros, a region where deposit rates are firmly in negative territory, the equivalent figures are 4.9% and 3.4%.3 On a risk-adjusted basis, we regard these as attractive yields given the extremely low probability of default.
Both markets are subject to systemic risk – i.e. both markets will sell off heavily in a crisis such as GFC, Coronavirus Mark II or some other global calamity, as would the equity markets.

However, the big difference between traditional high yield and hybrid capital issued by investment grade companies is the much lower default rate in hybrids as evidenced by the data from Credit Sights which goes all the way back to 2000 in US dollars.[4] To put this into context, there were only four years between 2000 and the end of 2020 when issuer-weighted defaults by US high yield financials exceeded those of US high yield (those years being 2005, 2008, 2009 and 2010).[5]

With hybrid capital, where the parent is investment grade the frequency of default is trivially low. Yes, there have been a very small number of high-profile defaults such as Lehman Brothers and Northern Rock, but these are incredibly rare.

The point is that the companies aren’t classified as high yield but the individual (hybrid) issues are, because they rank lower in the capital structure in the event of default. They are deemed to be ‘risky’ because of where they sit in the capital structure. This might sound like a technical point, but it’s a critically important one.

Q7: Why do you think hybrid capital of investment grade companies has defaulted much less frequently than traditional high yield?

This links to the point above, namely that the market doesn’t look kindly on investment grade parents who renege on their responsibilities to holders of their subordinated debt. However, there is a wider point here: a lot of hybrid debt is issued by financials – banks, insurers and the like.

Because of the GFC, regulators have forced banks and other financial institutions to bolster their capital and be much more conservative in their behaviour.

This is a bad story for equity investors in banks as the days of gigantic profits (and high leverage) are over, but it’s a great story for credit investors as it means you are more likely to be repaid at maturity. If anything, retail banks in particular have become much more utility-like than they were prior to the GFC – but the memory of the crisis means that they still have to offer investors some pick up in spread when they issue debt. This means it is possible to achieve attractive returns without running the default risk that is inherent in ‘traditional’ high yield. The last thing the regulators want is another banking crisis – and the changes made since the GFC mean that if we do see another crisis, the banks won’t be the source.

Q8: Aren’t bank defaults quite common?

Not at all. Bank defaults are actually rare and that’s why when they do occur, they tend to be a big deal. Investors will remember the likes of Northern Rock in the UK and Lehman Brothers in the US, but those kinds of seismic events are the exception, not the norm. In the interim, investing in bank debt and particularly hybrid debt issued by banks allows you to earn more than you could do from investing in traditional high yield with a similar volatility profile. There will always be times when the banks and the wider market experiences defaults, but there will also be periods when banks see materially fewer defaults than seen in other sectors. That’s the environment we believe we are in now.

Below we’ve provided a list of the largest bank defaults from 2000 to 2020 in the US high yield index (H0A0). As you’ll see, defaults are rare (the last major one in US high yield being in 2015), and in fact these defaults make up close to 90% of the total face value of bank defaults in the index. That is to say in the high yield space they are the exception, not the norm. But again remember, we are not investing in “high yield financials” i.e. our parent company credit ratings are investment grade.

list of the largest bank defaults from 2000 to 2020








Source: CreditSights, March 2021.

We are also encouraged that Moody’s has confirmed a ‘mostly stable’ outlook for the global banking sector, and while some economies such as the UK face a relatively slow recovery or structurally lower banking profits (Japan and Germany), one must remember that where a company is domiciled does not necessarily reflect where its key risk lie – for HSBC and Standard Chartered for example, what happens in Asia is more important than what happens here in the UK. Overall though, the picture for banks is encouraging:

Banking outlooks mostly stable

















Source: Moody’s, 31 March 2021.

Peter Doherty


Peter Doherty
Head of Fixed Income at Sanlam Investments UK

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[1] Source: BoAML, St Louis Fed, 29 March 2021.
[2] Source, S&P, Fitch Ratings. As at 31 March 2021.
[3] Source: Autonomous, yields quoted as at 1 March 2021. The Autonomous data herein is part of a larger body of investment analysis. For their latest research reports, which contain information that may be used to support investment decisions and appropriate disclosures, please see their website at Autonomous makes no representation or warranty concerning the accuracy of any data contained herein.
[4] Source: Credit Sights. USD default rates for the period 31.01.00 to 31.12.20. See also the line chart above.
[5] Source Credit Sights, issuer weighted US HY bank defaults versus US HY Master index defaults, 31.00.2000 to 31.12.2020.


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